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Color Management

Journal Entry: Mon Aug 30, 2010, 2:53 AM



I'm tearing my hair out and losing a lot of sleep right now.

My monitor is calibrated. "Calibrated" in the sense that I first used the calibration software that came with the monitor, and then when Photoshop kept telling me that there was something wrong with my ICC Profile, I used one of those "adjust the sliders until everything matches up and looks right" type of things.

My monitor looks great. As far as I'm concerned, the color that my monitor shows is accurate. This web page looks the same here as it does on most other properly working computers.

So why is it that ONLY Adobe products show everything with a warm shift on my computer? In the Photoshop GUI, the white of the palettes is correct, but the white in the color picker is a light yellow...


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Okay wait. I just managed to get Photoshop to show an accurate white. Now a new problem has arisen. I add my name to the bottom of my artwork. It's a simple, greyscale JPEG. I simply change the blending mode to "darken" or "screen", depending on whether or not I want a black or a white name. This SHOULD make either the black or the white transparent, correct? So why is it that now, after I "fixed" the color problem in Photoshop, the transparent part of my name image shows as blue?




If I'm not making any sense, whatever... I'm literally struggling to keep my eyes open, and my head is killing me I'm so damn tired. It's just incredibly frustrating that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the images in my Gallery is NOT what I intended you to see. It's always the wrong color. Even my black and whites are off, since white is never truly white with me.

FML.

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:iconjohnlefou:
Load up some srgb default, make sure that the image doesn't have any embedded profile (some camera's are starting to have them/you may have bumped one on), and make sure you have the right proof setup under 'view'. If you did a slider bar calibration you may have also thrown off your white temperature. Does the same beginning image have the weird tint in multiple programs? or is it Adobe only? Might disable adobe gamma just to make sure.
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:iconandrewzissou:
*AndrewZissou Sep 1, 2010  Professional Photographer
It's Adobe only. Every other application, and the OS all have a nice White. My Adobe products feel like shifting my white temp around.
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:icongellidius:
if it can be of any help, i just checked your last B/W image, "kitten 2", and it's very gray, not a hint of color in there...
also, have you checked if ALL your imaging programs or monitors or equipment use the same color space?
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:iconandrewzissou:
*AndrewZissou Aug 30, 2010  Professional Photographer
That's what's messed up Gel, when I was processing the image it had a bit of a yellow shift in Photoshop (even though it was Greyscale), and it was subsequently a bit lighter. But the fact is, that I had edited it to the point where I was happy with it. Then, upon upload, the internet is displaying it is a pure greyscale, too dark, with bad contrast. It's really infuriating :/

My monitor and Photoshop are using "Samsung - Natural Color Pro 1.0 ICM".
Lightroom 2 doesn't give me the option to select profiles. At least, not that I can find.

Thanks :)
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:icongellidius:
the way you explain it, i suggest you try to use sRGB for the internet.
what i suggest is you work on your files with whatever color space you want, but just for the internet, use sRGB; if you use other color spaces, the image will change quite a lot from what you want it to look like.
when you change from whatever color space you work with to sRGB, you should not see a change in appearance happening at that moment.
I've never worked with Lightroom, but in Photoshop, when you want to change color space, don't use "Edit - assign profile", instead, use Idit - convert to profile. The first one will change colors and other things, the second method will not.
maybe this is what you need to do; anyway, the sRGB image you see in Photoshop will not look exactly the same as when it's on DA; every program renders images differently from one another, but differences will be small, unlike different color spaces.

hope this helps.
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:iconandrewzissou:
*AndrewZissou Aug 30, 2010  Professional Photographer
I usually work in AdobeRGB, and then I "save for web and devices" using maximum quality JPEG and "convert to sRGB".

Today, I found that converting to sRGB was causing the annoying image shift. When I deselected the option, the image reverted back to it's proper appearance.

I would have thought that when it comes to something as crucial as color management, they would have made the process a bit more streamlined.
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:icongellidius:
then, if you do it the way i wrote above, the conversion to sRGB should never change the image's appearance, whatever color space you were using before conversion to sRGB.

hope all's right now. :-)
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:iconfallen-red-ninja:
Have you managed to get it recalibrated?

Scuttlebutt is that there was an issue with one of th recent adobe updates that can make it do dumb stuff. It might be worth winding it back if you've recently updated.

While I've not heard of it messing with colours, anything is possible.
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:iconandrewzissou:
*AndrewZissou Sep 1, 2010  Professional Photographer
No, I'm wondering if I'm an isolated case. Maybe a reinstall is necessary :/
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:iconfallen-red-ninja:
Nurr
Might be worth it... I've asked a couple of the Adobe experts at work place what it could be and it's got them stumped too >.<;
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